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Opinions on Edition rule regarding Box Set title being used as edition for child proiles...
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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There is a contribution up or vote, with a few 'no' votes, and a lot of 'yes' votes.  The contribution is for the Alien3, which is a child of the 'Alien Anthology' set.  'Alien Anthology' is being added as the edition.

My question...is this correct?  I thought no, mainly because I don't see it as an edition, but also because I have never seen this done with any other set I own, so I was wondering if my thinking was incorrect.

I should point out that the discs do not come in cases of their own.
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I always thought the same way as you Martian.
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No edition for the child profiles as this causes a problem if they're in more than one box set.
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Unless it's on the disc art or something, it should not be an edition for the reason GreyHulk gives.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantTheDarkKnight
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I saw the contribution too and I don't think that the Boxset title is an edition.

Edit: Looks like I am seeing a different contribution, it's Alien3 also but from the Alien Quadrilogy Boxset.
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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'Alien Anthology' is being added as the edition.

Which is wrong, in my humble opinion.
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I thought no, mainly because I don't see it as an edition,

Nor do I. Never seen this before and I would never accept it to my local database.

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I agree with all of you.

The disc ID children could be comtained later in different box sets.  The only condition that I can think of to have an edition in this case is if an edition is printed on the disc itself.  And in this case the disc does not.

Putting the "Box Set Title" and edition on the disc ID based child IMO is just wrong for the reasons I just stated.

"The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition, Director's Cut). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title. "

In my interpretation the rule does not come even close to stating that the box set title can be the edition to the child profiles of the box set.

The section on using non-datndard editions refers to an edition that is not in the built in selections, not that one can be made up.

So given there is no edition on the box set and no edition on the disc art there would be no edition.

EDIT: Unless the disc art had an edition, or the disc is packaged separately with an edition on that package, the only argument one would have is if there was an edition to the box set and in theis case there is not.  But that I think is a stretch and we do not do that for disc ID based child profiles today
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Agreed, it's not a valid Edition. It's the title of the Box Set.

If it were the Edition (Alien Anthology), then the Box Set itself would have no title...just an edition.
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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Unless it's on the disc art or something, it should not be an edition for the reason GreyHulk gives.


This.
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Quoting The Movieman:
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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Unless it's on the disc art or something, it should not be an edition for the reason GreyHulk gives.


This.


Yeah in the case of box sets we have always based the title and edition of the Disc ID based child profiles off the disc art.  And only considered the packaging if the discs were individually packaged within the box set, and in that case it was not the outer most box set packaging.
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Since the child profiles do not have their own cases I was thinking the Edition field was correct. But, after reading this thread I've changed my mind.
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Quoting The Movieman:
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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Unless it's on the disc art or something, it should not be an edition for the reason GreyHulk gives.


This.


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