Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next
Other Features
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
Registered: May 29, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 3,475
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Should the Other Feature data match the DVD cover? Please explain why or why not.

I don't know why it shouldn't. I have added bullets and/or TM symbols - in my opinioin this adds value since it matches the cover.

The rules themselves use Bullets in listing the data that is allowed under Other Features: http://invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=discextras.
 Last edited: by Kathy
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributortweeter
I aim to misbehave
Registered: June 12, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 2,665
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quote:
The rules themselves use Bullets in listing the data that is allowed under Other Features

The Rules also use bold, italics and color to make certain points.  The formatting of the Rules implies nothing about how any field should be filled out, they simply make the Rules more readable.

Other Features exists to provide concise, and hopefully useful, information not otherwise covered by the Feature check boxes.  If the formatting of the Features was at all important people would have been clamoring for years for a large text field with all the formatting features of the Overview field.
Bad movie?  You're soaking in it!
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,330
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I personally don't mind it matching the case when there is enough room. But when it comes to this field we are dealing with very limited space.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAce_of_Sevens
Registered: December 10, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 3,004
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
This isn't a yes-or-no question. The names should be the same and trademark symbols can be part of the name, but bullets should be left out. Bullets are for organizing a vertical list with one point below the previous. This is not possible in the other features field.

To reply to Kathy's point, the other feature's field is different than the overview, both in implementation and function. It doesn't allow bold, italics or carriage returns, so we can't copy formatting in most cases. Also, unlike the overview, it is not a transcription of some section of the package. It's a list of whatever didn't fit in the checkboxes. Take the following feature list, for example:

Quote:
• Interviews with cast and crew
• Director's commentary
• Deleted scenes
• D-Box motion code
• Production photo galley


I don't see how it would make sense to enter "• D-Box motion code" instead of "D-Box motion code" in other features. The bullet isn't part of the name of a feature. It's part of the list format and we aren't doing an exact copy of the list to the features section.
 Last edited: by Ace_of_Sevens
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorscotthm
Registered: March 20, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,850
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Kathy:
Quote:
Should the Other Feature data match the DVD cover? Please explain why or why not.

The data should match, but the formatting (bullets, fonts, colors, etc.) need not match.  I've never missed this information and see no need for it.

---------------
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
Profiling since Dec. 2000
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 8,724
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
Quote:
I don't see how it would make sense to enter "• D-Box motion code" instead of "D-Box motion code" in other features. The bullet isn't part of the name of a feature. It's part of the list format and we aren't doing an exact copy of the list to the features section.

This.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 6,018
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
First of all, I'd like to say that Other Features data should match the actual disc contents rather than the cover. Next question is how to describe them, in view of the limited amount of space. I'd say: use the cover's description if there is sufficient room, use sensible abbreviations if there isn't.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNexus the Sixth
Contributor since 2002
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Sweden Posts: 3,197
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
The other features field is for entering leftovers that don't fit the other categories, nothing more. I don't see anything in the rules that says it should match the cover. The information doesn't even have to come from the cover, it can come from the disc itself. Indeed, that is preferable since covers don't always tell the truth.
First registered: February 15, 2002
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMallrat
Registered: December 13, 2008
Reputation: High Rating
Netherlands Posts: 334
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting dee1959jay:
Quote:
First of all, I'd like to say that Other Features data should match the actual disc contents rather than the cover. Next question is how to describe them, in view of the limited amount of space. I'd say: use the cover's description if there is sufficient room, use sensible abbreviations if there isn't.


Agreed.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnuoyaxin
prev. known as ya_shin
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Taiwan, Province of China Posts: 3,436
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I agree with Ace (he saved me the typing ) and deejay.
Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative)
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
Reg: 31/01/2003
Registered: March 13, 2007
United Kingdom Posts: 2,692
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Kathy:
Quote:
Should the Other Feature data match the DVD cover? Please explain why or why not.

I don't know why it shouldn't. I have added bullets and/or TM symbols - in my opinioin this adds value since it matches the cover.

The rules themselves use Bullets in listing the data that is allowed under Other Features: http://invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=discextras.


if you want to see/display what the cover looks like - then look at the cover.

In my opinion, this formatting adds zero value since what we want to be able to see is the TEXT.

(I also find zero value in formatting the overview to match the cover which is already in the profile - but that's an argument I've given up on. As mentioned, a perfect representation of the cover - to see how it's formatted - is to view the cover.)
Paul
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,201
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting ya_shin:
Quote:
I agree with Ace (he saved me the typing ) and deejay.

I agree with ya_shin's agreement with Ace and deejay.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
Registered: March 15, 2007
Canada Posts: 1,982
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
But when it comes to this field we are dealing with very limited space.

Can't answer yes or no Kathy. As Pete said the problem is that we don't have enough space to write them.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
Registered: May 29, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 3,475
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Since the new update I've not run into a lack of space for this data. But, based on this poll I have withdrawn those contributions and will keep Overview data updates locked and local only.

Thank you for the input everyone.
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next