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How to display Closed Caption?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbentyman
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I have the Canadian version of Final Destination2, which is encoded with CC. But when I select SUbtitle from the Subtritle button on my remote, nothing happen. The first Subtitle is not visible (English) but the second is labeled French, but the French subtitle does not appear. As you know I live n Norway, and my equipment is bought off European standards. Is that the reason I can't get the CC?
I have a Pioneer DV610-AV I use for playing region1 DVD's, and a Pioneer DMP-BD50 blu-ray (not tried the movie there yet)

It's not a problem that I can't get the subtitles, but I would like to know how the CC system works. Where are the decoders for it?
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AFAIK you need a special device to decode Close Caption which is only available in North America. It's a standard that has never really gotten around the world.
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Quoting bentyman:
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It's not a problem that I can't get the subtitles, but I would like to know how the CC system works. Where are the decoders for it?

It works similar to Tekst-TV  (I followed the "Norsk"-link from the german "Teletext"-page)
But in the US the same trick was not only used for broadcast but also for VHS and DVD. As DJ Doena already wrote it is mostly unknown in the rest of the world, especially as DVD hat its own Subtitle-System.

cya, Mithi

PS If you have a DVD-ROM in you computer, VLC and other player-software can show the CC-Text
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Not sure how it works but I think you can display them with PowerDVD on a computer.
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Not sure how it works but I think you can display them with PowerDVD on a computer.


Correct. Other players can also do it, like TotalMedia Theatre and WinDVD, etc..

On just a DVD or Blu-ray player though, there's no button to turn Closed Captions on/off like standard subtitles. If you have an NTSC TV capable of CC-decoding, it will have a button or menu setup option to toggle it on or off.
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MPC-HC can display CCs, too and is free.
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Read somewhere that certain Brands of HDMI cable  or HDMI cable in general cannot carry that code of info thru on line 19 -21 ..??
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Read somewhere that certain Brands of HDMI cable  or HDMI cable in general cannot carry that code of info thru on line 19 -21 ..??

I certainly hope that they don't! Because line 19-21 are visible on my screen, I want picture information there, not some encoded subtitle.
CC is an excellent example why legacy often sucks bricks. BD and DVD don't need any CC, they have a perfectly working subtitle-function. Carrying over CC was just the sheer laziness on the distributors side, everything that CCs can carry could have been easily transfered to the subtitles function.
Not to mention that in the day and age of a digital-data-stream it seems quite superfluous (not to say crazy) to encode text-data in a picture that then is encodes into digital and multiplexed with audio and additional text-data.

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found it here ..
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