So I bought and contributed my new Blue ray box set of the Extended versions of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy this week .. It has English and French on the outer case (rear)  as well as the inner sleeves are english/french  Text and all are vastly different than the current Canada Locality.. and the Canada / Quebec was also differant but had the same disc ID as mine bought.. but not the same disc ID as USA  and current Canada profiles ..

So the 15 disc set @ 727 minute ( expanded)  was -as the USA release set- the same in front art and back art as well it had the same features and audio as the USA set .. but has different UPC.

The features as both shown are what is currently in data over mine shown below ..
2010 april 4th  Release set
Scene Access
Feature Trailers *
Featurettes
BD-Live
Digital Copy
Music Videos*


2011 Release June 28  the one I wish to append as Canada upgrade current new release .
Features
Scene Access
Bonus Trailers*
Featurettes
Audio Commentary*
BD-Live
Digital Copy
Storyboard Comparisons*
Gallery*
DVD-ROM Content*
Other Features: Interactive Middle-earth Map; Interactive Sound Demonstration of The Battle of Helm's Deep*

the *  represents what the two sets differ on .....  The Canada set currently in the data from 2010 does not contain the two commentary as the USA does .. but the usa release has different disc ID than my set ..  so in contributing am running inot a problem that seems that my set is a re release over the 2011 release but my quandary is the two sets are vastly different in art work / audio and features as well as other features  ..

My NO  votes keep telling me I am trying to mix apples and oranges ( differant upc/ differnat ID ) but it is only My New Canadian amazon disk set and am having problems in trying to upgrade this ...
SO  decided to pull the Canada release and just upgrade all of my contribution data as New Canada / Quebec when I feel the 2011 notes are re release and the set I have from Amazon.ca is the equivalent to the USA locality currently in data (2010) ..



So question is:
If a ''rerelease''  has new art work.. New Upc ., New disc ID , New features , New audio  is it a release or just a new Rendition ???
no wonder our data is in such disarray  ...

there is no upc for the children...  only the outer case has upc code..  and  I did contribute new disc ID for all 15 discs...

and  that is why I contributed a new set  or new upc..

The boxset in question:
UPC 065935-847724

The boxset you have is a re-release, same discs but with no digital copies and different packaging.

Already has children associated with it:
Fellowship - UPC C4EE-8FEC-341B-AB0D
Return - UPC 6481-0A40-C5C2-02F9
Two Towers - UPC 1CDF-2626-650D-44B9

Now your discs I know are different, and aren't in the online database.  I checked them against mine and I have the exact same discs as you.  Even if you create new profiles you can't update the parent as the first ones submitted takes precedence, which is the reason I haven't submitted them yet, they'd be orphans.  But if I would have they would have already been in the database when you looked for them.

Have the main disc to be used in the drive.  And click'Use Disc ID'; which is currently greyed out for you because there isn't a disc currently in the drive.  Once you have it in, select the appropriate drive and click OK.  if there is an online profile for that UPC(DiscID) for the given locality, it will let you know.  If not that means it's not in the online db.

Quoting widescreenforever:

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OK  got the first disc from each of the trilogy and inserted and copied the disc ID for the UPC of the three titles ... Looking over the rear scan cover art I am now wondering if with the rating on the back jacket of 14 PG  instead of 13+  as it is normally for Canada / Quebec  with PG 14 as the rating that should make this set a Canada locality in the long run ..[/b]

It should be a Canada locality, IMO, and 14A is the rating.

Quoting widescreenforever:

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But still waiting for the answer on my original question.:

If a ''rerelease''  has new art work.. New Upc ., New disc ID , New features , New audio:  is it a release or just a new Rendition ???

It's the UPC that determines it.  Since in this case it already has a UPC in the database, you shouldn't make any changes that are reflected, such as removing digital copy, changing artwork, etc.  The online has to contain the information from the initial release.  Of course you can keep it in your local as you like it.  Often they reuse the same UPC and drop digital copies or combopacks.  Sometimes rental editions use the same UPC.

I can't figure out the rhyme and reason of how studios assign UPCs.  Sometimes they re-use them even if the content is different like in this case.  Other times I've seen multiple UPCs for what appears to be the same exact release, from cover art to the discID, no discernible difference between the releases with the exception of the UPC code itself.

very confusing .. ( reedited the first post) but it appears the APRIL  2010  Blue ray release does not contain as much as the June 2011 release as there were 4 commentaries listed  for the 2011 release ( and a few other menu changes )  the 2010 release set has different packaging to the 2011 release .. so I am trying to figure out what my set is compared to the 2010 set .. both from using grandfathering the cast and crew over to a set that is not up to par ... They  all have different UPC and different disc ID's bu they are all over the map  and there does not seem to be any consistency to the releases between locality's and years of release for the Blue Ray set ......

I'm pretty confused by what's going on here. This is how I understand it:

The April 4, 2010 box set is the theatrical edition box set. If the Canadian release is anything like the US release, the theatrical version of each movie is on its own Blu-ray with trailers (no commentaries) and each movie has a DVD of bonus features. If you own the Extended Editions, your set should look nothing like this.

The set you own seems to be a re-release of the June 18, 2011 set (UPC 065935-847724). This was a 15-disc release of the Extended Editions. Each movie is housed in a separate HD keep case with the movie split over 2 Blu-rays and 3 DVDs of bonus features. From the image you posted, it looks like your set has the same UPC as the initial June 18, 2011 release, but without the digital copy codes and with different artwork. You seem to be contributing re-release data which shouldn't be there as the current profiles correctly contain information about the original release.

So are the actual discs different in your release? Is it still a 15 disc set with the extended movies? You mentioned different audio options and no commentaries. Are you sure? Seems odd that they'd author new discs and remove extras, etc.