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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantlasitter
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I'm getting in more and more Blu-ray combo packs for which the UPC is not recognized in the database. So I guess I need to create child profiles for each disc and then include them as box set contents for the cover art / UPC container.

So what is the easiest way to snag a complete profile for one of the discs in the box set and then create  a child profile for just the disc (less the UPC) for including in the new box set contents profile?

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I'm getting in more and more Blu-ray combo packs for which the UPC is not recognized in the database. So I guess I need to create child profiles...

No, child profiles for non-box sets are optional.  A Blu-ray/DVD combo is not a box set.

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No, child profiles for non-box sets are optional.  A Blu-ray/DVD combo is not a box set.


Actually Blu-ray/DVD combos are considered a Box Set.

You enter the DVD child profile under "Box Set Contents" in the program, and these are also specified under "Box Sets" in the rules.
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So what is the easiest way to snag a complete profile for one of the discs in the box set and then create  a child profile for just the disc (less the UPC) for including in the new box set contents profile?

One way, not sure if easiest, is to use BulkEdit "Collection\Flagged\Clone to DiscID". You get a menu similar to DVDP Copy/Paste so you can select which parts of the profile to copy.
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No, child profiles for non-box sets are optional.  A Blu-ray/DVD combo is not a box set.


Actually Blu-ray/DVD combos are considered a Box Set.

You enter the DVD child profile under "Box Set Contents" in the program, and these are also specified under "Box Sets" in the rules.

Actually, I thought that the DVD child profiles were treated more as a "bonus feature film" rather than as a box set.
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I realized I wasn't clear about something in my post. It's for two (or more) different Blu-ray features in a single Blu-ray case.

A Beautiful Mind / Cinderella Man
025192-193019

The most recent example.

American History X / A History of  Violence / True Romance
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Is a 3-pack example
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Actually, I thought that the DVD child profiles were treated more as a "bonus feature film" rather than as a box set.


Either, or.

You still add them via the Box Set Contents, and the rules still specify how to handle them under the "Box Sets" section of the rules.
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Actually Blu-ray/DVD combos are considered a Box Set.

Interesting.

The first sentence of the Box Set definition says:

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The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film.

Multiple copies of the same film does not count as more than one film.

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Multiple copies of the same film does not count as more than one film.


And why then exactly does it specify under "Box Set Rules" down lower in that page:

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Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. A combo which includes HD media (HD-DVD, Blu-ray) as well as DVD should use the details from the HD media in the main profile. However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile.


Oh I get it... Ken only meant to list that under another section called "Same Film" rules?

The very fact that is it listed under the Box Set Rules section (and only listed there) means it is classified as a valid Box Set type of profile.

When you contribute a "DVD" child to a Blu-ray Combo profile, it will be contributed as "Box Set". Try it, it really is that simple.

Additionally, when you add a Blu-ray + DVD Combo that's already in the database and already has the DVD child attached, it will even inform you of this fact:

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This profile is a box set and contains the following profiles not currently in your collection

Add these profiles?
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And why then exactly does it specify under "Box Set Rules" down lower in that page:

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Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. A combo which includes HD media (HD-DVD, Blu-ray) as well as DVD should use the details from the HD media in the main profile. However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile.


Oh I get it...

Do you?  It is a "normal" profile with another media type listed in its box set contents.  That's not at all the same as it being a box set.

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Everyone is a little bit right.

We are allowed to profile a multi-media set in the form of a box set where the most advanced media type is the parent profile and the other media types are profiles as children of this parent profile. Since they usually don't come with UPCs of their own, the disc IDs are used for the child profiles whereas the UPC is reserved for the parent.

However, other box set rules do not apply. We do not add up all the running times and put the result into the parent profile (a european PAL DVD is running 4% faster than their NTSC counterpart or a Blu-ray parent profile), the parent profile is allowed to have cast and crew of their own - there is no basically empty parent and then one Blu-ray child and one DVD child (and one 3D child, ...). The parent is allowed to have theatrical release studios and so on and so forth.
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However, other box set rules do not apply.

Right.  There is no profile for a "box", there are only profiles for discs.  The fact that we may use the box set contents field as if it were a box set can be confusing.

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Do you?  It is a "normal" profile with another media type listed in its box set contents.  That's not at all the same as it being a box set.


You obviously didn't read anything I posted.

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We are allowed to profile a multi-media set in the form of a box set


Yes exactly, that is all I am trying to say here. And in the end it's semantics and doesn't even matter, since they can be contributed that way and are approved without any problems.
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