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Complete series Episode numbering
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLJG
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How do you number episodes in a complete series box set?

There are 4 seasons. The first 2 discs are season one. The 3rd disc is Season 2 and the 4th is season 3.

(This is option 1). The first two discs are numbered 1, 2, 3 and so on. Then for disc 3, which is the 2nd season, are restarted at 1.

(Option two). The change up for discussion is numbering all episodes one right after another. So instead of starting over with the 2nd season at number 1, it's continuing. 14, 15, 16 and so on.

I'm not sure what's right and could use some advice on how to vote. I don't care either way, really, but it does make more sense for me that the first way (starting over with the 2nd season) would make sense.

Thanks!
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I've seen both options being used. The neatest solution in my opinion is either to add an extra episode divider:

Season 1
1. Episode 1
2. ....

Season 2
1. Episode 1
2. ....


Or an alternative I have not yet seen:

1.1. S1 Ep1
1.2. S2 Ep2

2.1. S2 Ep1
2.2. S2 Ep2
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I'd say that this depends on the numbering used in the boxset.

If they are still keeping up with the season numbering we should keep it using one of the methods pointed out by cvermeylen.

Boxsets that are re-numbering the episodes consecutively (e.g. "Sanctuary" 01 - 59) should be entered this way.
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Quoting cvermeylen:
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Or an alternative I have not yet seen:

1.1. S1 Ep1
1.2. S2 Ep2

2.1. S2 Ep1
2.2. S2 Ep2


Unless there is numbering on the case like above these would be against the rules... as the rules state to format the episodes as 1. title... 2. title... 3. title... ect.
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I didn't bother to vote in the poll here as the answer can be different depending on the release and whether there is numbering already on the case.

The way I do it when I see no numbering on the cases is start with number 1. title and then go from there numbering each episode.
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Preferably I would keep the numbering from the individual seasons, unless the case or discs state otherwise.
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Agree with those that say it depends how they're presented in the packaging/menus. If they restart the numbering, use what they do. If not, either restart or don't. I would personally restart with each season.
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I'd say it depends on how the discs are packaged/numbered.

In my collection, every TV series except 1 has the numbering restart with each season, including the 10-season Stargate SG-1 collection. My 1 exception is the Transformers complete series, which continues the numbering from episode 1-98, covering all 4 seasons. I've been meaning to go thru all my TV series sets and make the episode labeling consistent, and then lock them down.
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I have considered that myself... making it consistent and locking it down. Only problem with that is it will completely lock down the cast and crew sections. Which means I wouldn't get the not so obvious corrections and such. So I haven't done so... at least not yet.
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Off the top of my head, the ones that don't restart numbering after a new season in my collection are Twin Peaks: Gold Box, Young Indiana Jones sets, and Strike Back: Cinemax Season 2. I've not checked the Twin Peaks or Young Indy sets to see if this is a user contributed thing or it's how it's done in the set itself.
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The back of the box does not have numbering, but it does divide them by seasons. The discs do this as well.
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You would want to check numbering on the menus as well. If there is still no numbering of the episodes then you can number them yourself. Using the format per the rules...

1. Title
2. Title
3. Title
etc... etc... etc..

Remember... no leading zero on numbers 1-9.

As for going back to number 1 for each new season. The rules don't touch this... so what I do is if the set don't show separate seasons then I don't. If the set shows separate seasons then I will.
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I checked the menus and there was no numbering there. But every disc and all the cases are labeled separately with the seasons.

Thanks for the help!
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I have considered that myself... making it consistent and locking it down. Only problem with that is it will completely lock down the cast and crew sections. Which means I wouldn't get the not so obvious corrections and such. So I haven't done so... at least not yet.

Even with them locked down, you'd still get to preview any changes, which most likely wouldn't be too frequently. It shouldn't be too difficult to just write down any "good" changes and then manually make the adjustments in your locked down profile.
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I've seen both options being used. The neatest solution in my opinion is either to add an extra episode divider:

Season 1
1. Episode 1
2. ....

That's actually the worst method. Why? Because DVD Profiler doesn't see a"relation" between such a season header and the cast or crew that is listed under it. It'll be attached to "1. Episode Title", yes, but it won't be attached to that "Season 1" header.

So when I look at the list of acting credits of a certain actor in my database, and one of his credits is in a TV profile that contains four entire seasons, then the program tells me in what episode number he appears, but the program doesn't tell me in what season - because the empty season divider is meaningless, and is not actually "attached" to those credits. So to find the episode in which he appears, I'd still have to scroll through through the entire cast list, through those four seasons. That's ridiculous, as I consider something like "show me the episode of show X in which actor Y appears" one of the more basic functions of this software.

So, since "empty" dividers are in no way attached to the data that is listed under them, I don't ever use them.
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I wound say it all depends on how the episodes are listed on the DVDs/BDs and/or packaging if you follow the rules.  while I would like seasons and episodes all consistent I don't think the rules support this at this time.

Some examples of what I have in my DB based on the packaging/Menus:

Collections that are simply season sets packages together.  Each season starts over at 1.

Some that are new pressing that are listed as 1 to the last episode numbers and no season indicators. 

I even have a few that restart each season but the numbers are production numbers like 101 for Season 1 episode 1 through 124 for season 1 episode 24 and then season 2 starts at 201.  This leaves a gap from 125 to 200.

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