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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,741 |
| | Posted: | | | | Recently it has become custom for some TV shows to be released in a BR/DVD combo pack but also in the classical DVD-only version.
Regarding the disc profiles of the DVD: Which version of profile (e.g. for the case type) does win?
First come, first serve
BR/DVD combo
DVD-only
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | In these cases they are normally released on the same day. So I would have to say first into the database wins.
This is another reason we need another way to add discs other then UPC and Disc IDs. | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd say "Business As Usual".
Means if a specific EAN/UPC has two (or more) varying releases on the same day the first to make it into our database wins. Otherwise we will have endless Ping-Pong contributions. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | ^^^ agree with Pete and Lewis.
It pretty much just comes down to whoever gets it submitted into the database first...otherwise there would be endless flip-flopping between the two. | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | I vote for endless flip-flopping combined with forum arguments that get really personal. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm going to be the odd man out and say that the DVD only release should take priority for the DVD child profiles. The Blu-ray versions will already have their own, so why make things harder for those that bought the DVD only version? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I'm going to be the odd man out and say that the DVD only release should take priority for the DVD child profiles. The Blu-ray versions will already have their own, so why make things harder for those that bought the DVD only version? Now this is to sensible of an answer. Who are you & what have you done with the Martian?  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I'm going to be the odd man out and say that the DVD only release should take priority for the DVD child profiles. The Blu-ray versions will already have their own, so why make things harder for those that bought the DVD only version? I just don't see it that way. The "DVD" is just as valid when included in a Blu-ray + DVD Combo pack as it is in a standalone DVD release. | | | | Corey | | | | Last edited: by Katatonia |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | I personally see it the same way as Katatonia. The DVDs are part of the combo sets... So why should it always be wrong for those that bought the combo sets?.. But always right for those that bought the DVD only sets?
I think at least until there is a way to add them both ways (new way to add profiles other then UPC and Disc ID) the only fair way would be first in the database wins, this way they are only sometimes wrong for everyone. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: July 16, 2010 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 523 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
I vote for endless flip-flopping combined with forum arguments that get really personal. Don't forget the part near the end where everyone berates Ken and blames him. | | | | Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it? Guttermouth "Lemon Water". Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally. So I'm an anarchist, deal with it. Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I personally see it the same way as Katatonia. The DVDs are part of the combo sets... So why should it always be wrong for those that bought the combo sets?.. But always right for those that bought the DVD only sets? Because it is a profile for the DVD. Quote:
I think at least until there is a way to add them both ways (new way to add profiles other then UPC and Disc ID) the only fair way would be first in the database wins, this way they are only sometimes wrong for everyone. Fair or not, it makes more sense...at least to me...to have the profiles, created by disc ID, match the media type. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've never liked the "first come, first serve" being the way data is decided.
Why in the world should the ability to type faster make it "right"?
Fix the problem - find a solution that works for both the DVD and Blu-ray owners.
Anything less, imho, is unacceptable. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 553 |
| | Posted: | | | | Personally, I think it'd make sense to prefer using the DVD info largely because in the BD combo pack, DVD is the secondary format. I usually buy Blu-rays nowadays and rarely use disc-level profiles, but I wouldn't mind having the DVD info. Would this really affect anything other than case type and cover art? | | | My DVD/Blu-ray Collection
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rizor: Quote:
Personally, I think it'd make sense to prefer using the DVD info largely because in the BD combo pack, DVD is the secondary format. I usually buy Blu-rays nowadays and rarely use disc-level profiles, but I wouldn't mind having the DVD info. Would this really affect anything other than case type and cover art? Would it affect anything besides case type and cover art? Perhaps not, but that's beside the point. As I said before, the "DVD" in a Combo Pack is no less valid an entry than a standalone DVD release. Why should Combo pack users have to sacrifice? I don't see the justification in that. I buy Combo packs all the time, and I do submit many of the DVD's into the database as child profiles. | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,723 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
I've never liked the "first come, first serve" being the way data is decided.
Why in the world should the ability to type faster make it "right"?
Fix the problem - find a solution that works for both the DVD and Blu-ray owners.
Anything less, imho, is unacceptable. This. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | First and foremost I agree with Kathy... but that takes a program fix from Ken.
Until that happens... I completely agree with Corey (Katatonia). I see no reason the combo set owners should have to always sacrifice the correct data per what they bought to the dvd only release owners. | | | | Pete |
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