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| Registered: April 3, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 629 |
| | Posted: | | | | i got a question for all?
Is Scream Factory a media company, i looked up the Wikipedia page and it says
Scream Factory is a branch of Shout! Factory, dedicated to releasing horror and science-fiction films with cult followings. Scream Factory has released a slate of fan-favorite thrillers from the 1980s, many of which have never been available on Blu-ray before. Each title is presented in anamorphic widescreen, and most are released in a “Collector’s Editions” with new bonus content, archival materials, a collectible cover featuring newly rendered retro-style artwork, a reversible wrap with original theatrical key art and more.
Thanks | | | | http://www.mulligansmovies.com/ |
| | Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | No. They are in now way different than Arrow Academy. It's a range released by Shout! Factory IMO. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Many companies, we consider studios and media companies, are 'branches' of other companies. If it doesn't matter for them, it shouldn't matter here. If they fit the criteria outlined in the rules, they are a MC. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 553 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sounds like they could be a "secondary publisher" according to the rules:
"Publisher (Content) - Usually found as a logo on the bottom of the back cover or in the credit block, often containing the words "home video" or "home entertainment. Secondary publishers (eg. The Criterion Collection's Eclipse label) may also be listed."
If Shout! Factory isn't credited anywhere on the packaging/disc, I'd stick to Scream Factory as the publisher. If Shout! Factory is listed, I'd include Shout! Factory then Scream Factory as publishers then any licensors, etc. after them. | | | My DVD/Blu-ray Collection
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| | Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Scream Factory are not a company, a subsidiary, or even a licensee. They are a range of titles from an existing studio. I look forward to people adding Studio Classics as an MC on Fox releases.
EDIT: Slight rewording. | | | | Last edited: by samuelrichardscott |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
Scream Factory are not a company, a subsidiary, or even a licensee. They are a range of titles from another studio. I look forward to people adding Studio Classics as an MC on Fox releases. Agreed, aside form the Scream Factory logo, there is nothing in writing that supports it being a Media Company. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DoubleDownAgain: Quote:
Quoting samuelrichardscott:
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Scream Factory are not a company, a subsidiary, or even a licensee. They are a range of titles from another studio. I look forward to people adding Studio Classics as an MC on Fox releases.
Agreed, aside form the Scream Factory logo, there is nothing in writing that supports it being a Media Company. In profiler land, that is all that is required. If the studio chooses to release them under that name, we use it. As I eluded to earlier, this is nothing new. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting DoubleDownAgain:
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Quoting samuelrichardscott:
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Scream Factory are not a company, a subsidiary, or even a licensee. They are a range of titles from another studio. I look forward to people adding Studio Classics as an MC on Fox releases.
Agreed, aside form the Scream Factory logo, there is nothing in writing that supports it being a Media Company.
In profiler land, that is all that is required. If the studio chooses to release them under that name, we use it. As I eluded to earlier, this is nothing new. So you have to assume it is a MC and not a studio or production company? | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not an assumption, an educated guess. If it is not listed in the opening or closing credits, it probably isn't a studio or production company, so has to be an MC.
This particular situation seems similar to the Criterion Collecton's Eclipse label, which is specifically mentioned in the rules...same company, just different branding. As I said before, if it is allowed for that, as well as others, then it should be fine for this one. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Not an assumption, an educated guess. If it is not listed in the opening or closing credits, it probably isn't a studio or production company, so has to be an MC.
This particular situation seems similar to the Criterion Collecton's Eclipse label, which is specifically mentioned in the rules...same company, just different branding. As I said before, if it is allowed for that, as well as others, then it should be fine for this one. I disagree, I see it as an edition, a play on word from the real MC. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander
BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Which is exactly what the Eclipse series is, yet the rules consider that a secondary publisher that warrants a listing as an MC. In my opinion, neither are true MCs but, because I don't see Scream Factory as being any different than Eclipse, if the rules say one is, the other has to be as well.
This is one of the fields that I really see no use for, so I really don't have a dog in this fight. If Devion wants to add it, that's fine. If he doesn't, that's fine too. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | So we can add Studio Classics to the Fox SC line? How about Fox Film Noir to that line?
Another ridiculous reminder why Invelos is falling apart at the seams. Glad it's now my third priority when it comes to cataloguing. I guess I just need to lock these sections. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Which is exactly what the Eclipse series is, yet the rules consider that a secondary publisher that warrants a listing as an MC. In my opinion, neither are true MCs but, because I don't see Scream Factory as being any different than Eclipse, if the rules say one is, the other has to be as well.
This is one of the fields that I really see no use for, so I really don't have a dog in this fight. If Devion wants to add it, that's fine. If he doesn't, that's fine too. I disagree. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
Speakers: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6, CC-190 & Atom Monitors Subwoofer: Definitive Technology ProSub 800
BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander
BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii
Remote: Logitech Harmony One w/ PS3 Adapter WHS: Acer H341 Windows Home Server |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
So we can add Studio Classics to the Fox SC line? How about Fox Film Noir to that line? If it fits one of the rules for Media Companies, then yes, it can be added as a MC. If it is just an edition, portrayed as an edition on the front of the case, then no. Quote:
Another ridiculous reminder why Invelos is falling apart at the seams. Glad it's now my third priority when it comes to cataloguing. I guess I just need to lock these sections. I don't know about falling apart at the seams, but this is no more ridiculous than allowing a MC to double as an edition simply because their name contains the word 'collection'. Users requested this, users wrote the rules, and users got what they wanted. Some might call that good customer service. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
but this is no more ridiculous than allowing a MC to double as an edition simply because their name contains the word 'collection'. I agree, this is stupidity. |
| | Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting samuelrichardscott:
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So we can add Studio Classics to the Fox SC line? How about Fox Film Noir to that line?
If it fits one of the rules for Media Companies, then yes, it can be added as a MC. If it is just an edition, portrayed as an edition on the front of the case, then no.
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Another ridiculous reminder why Invelos is falling apart at the seams. Glad it's now my third priority when it comes to cataloguing. I guess I just need to lock these sections.
I don't know about falling apart at the seams, but this is no more ridiculous than allowing a MC to double as an edition simply because their name contains the word 'collection'. Users requested this, users wrote the rules, and users got what they wanted. Some might call that good customer service. I would like to show my appriciation to the users that wrote the contribution rules. Stand up, turn around and take a bow. Now I can put a boot where it bleongs.  |
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