Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next
Birth Years
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
Registered Sept 5 2005
Registered: May 20, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 2,934
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
There is an effort to remove what has been determined as invalid BY's.  They are invalid, not because they are wrong, but according to Invelos's rules are not necessary to differentiate between 2 people.

Even when a contribution is submitted to remove said invalid BY, it does not propogate through the DB correctly, nor update personal DB's correctly

Is it maybe time to petition a change in this policy?  After all a correct BY is correct...


Just asking for opinions

Charlie
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorscotthm
Registered: March 20, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,850
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting CharlieM:
Quote:
Is it maybe time to petition a change in this policy?  After all a correct BY is correct...

Unnecessary birth years don't bother me, but I think you'll be facing an uphill battle.

---------------
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,201
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I strip all BYs, so don't really care one way or the other.  If I recall correctly, Skip was the biggest opponent to entering all valid BYs.  With him gone, you might have a better chance.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
Registered: May 29, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 3,475
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Birth years don't change so they would only need to be documented and entered once.

Since we are already using them,  I would prefer we not restrict them as we do presently.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
Registered: July 31, 2008
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 2,506
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
I never saw a reason to exclude birth years. In the long run it will save time.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorScooter1836
Registered: October 30, 2011
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 1,870
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Some of the BY's in the invalid list are actually because they are wrong.  Some BY's have in fact changed.

I would say that probably most in the Invalid BY list are invalid because they were not needed based on the Invelos need.  But it is not 100% of them.

With the current rules the way they are you cannot stop people from removing them.  Nor can you stop a NO vote when you are adding an Invalid BY.  IMO It would really take a rule change.  Now personally I would be OK with keeping them in the case where they are considered invalid because of a common name change.  But unless the rule is changed people would be fighting dealing with NO votes when adding the BY.
 Last edited: by Scooter1836
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
Registered Sept 5 2005
Registered: May 20, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 2,934
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Scooter1836:
Quote:
Some of the BY's in the invalid list are actually because they are wrong.  Some BY's have in fact changed.

I would say that probably most in the Invalid BY list are invalid because they were not needed based on the Invelos need.  But it is not 100% of them.

With the current rules the way they are you cannot stop people from removing them.  Nor can you stop a NO vote when you are adding an Invalid BY.  IMO It would really take a rule change.  Now personally I would be OK with keeping them in the case where they are considered invalid because of a common name change.  But unless the rule is changed people would be fighting dealing with NO votes when adding the BY.


First, I never meant to imply that all BY's were correct, just the point that they are being removed due to Invelos Policy.

I put this forward, because of the problems with propagating BY's (A problem with the program).  That is why I also said to petition for a policy change, and am asking for opinions..
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsurfeur51
Since July 3, 2003
Registered: March 29, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
France Posts: 4,479
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting CharlieM:
Quote:
Is it maybe time to petition a change in this policy?  After all a correct BY is correct..

I totally agree with that.
Images from movies
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
Registered: May 29, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 3,475
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I have brought this issue to the Rules Committee.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,330
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I just posted against the idea in the other forum... just see it to be too easy to make a mess out of it. expanded on the reason in the other thread.
Pete
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next