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Covers scans with UV sleeves (Germany)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRichiLIVE
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I have submitted several scans of new blu-rays (Warner, Fox, Universal) with the sleeve, but I got several "No votes" so I want to clear what we do with this type of packaging.

I know the titles packed in HD Slim case are scanned without media banner, but the sleeve which is wrapped arounf the case when there is an Ultraviolet Copy inside uses the complete back and goes over the banner on the front side.

In order to present a view in the collection which really represents the first edition, I think this sleeve has to be scanned, because in a second Edition without UV vopy the sleeve is missing.
So I always scan the complete front where the media banner is exchanged with the UV banner and the backside where the sleeve is the compete backside, which holds the same Information like the inlay backside with additional UV Infos.

Since it is not a Slip-Cover, because it is only a thin papper which wraps around, I think the correct classification is "HD Slim without Slip cover" and to use the media banner "off" option to make it look correct in the collection.

It looks really good in my collection and it represents the real look of the release. I think the problem is that many users don't know about the media banner option and then they see a media banner and the banner of the scan.

So whats correct?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributoremmeli
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you must remove the sleeve to open the case. afterwards the part is pointless. so scan only inlay.

note also the differences for the first release (comes without uv) in your contributions.


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRichiLIVE
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You also have to remove a slip cover to open a case.
I always put the sleeve back onto the case with glue points, like a slip cover.

Do you throw away the sleeve?
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Quoting RichiLIVE:
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You also have to remove a slip cover to open a case.
I always put the sleeve back onto the case with glue points, like a slip cover.

Do you throw away the sleeve?


The problem with your Gravity contribution was that you did not specify what kind of scan this was. From the pure scan a voter cannot see that this was supposed to be a J-slip (was it that?) and you did not contribute any change in case type.

So for an ordinary voter it looked like you were contributing a completely different cover (from a slip case) without making a case type change.

Also you didn't state when you got your Blu-ray. For example, mine came without any J-slip and I've never seen Gravity with a J-slip in stores.

Also, as you can see in the vote results here the community is torn about in half if these "J cards" qualify as slip cover: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=688203&messageID=2143643

Can you make a photo of what your cover looks as a whole?

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Here is the rule:
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HD DVD and Blu-Ray discs in either HD Slim or HD Keep Case type cases without slip covers should be scanned without the HD banner.


So at least for the frontcover the rules are quite clear (at least if you don't consider the UV-Wrapper to be a Slip-Cover variant).

The question is quite simple: What was the intention of the rule?
IMO it only makes sense if the intention was to prevent collisions with the Automatic-Banner of DVDProfiler.
The front-covers contributed with (digitally added!) UV+Blu-ray banner lead to the strange (and hopefully unwanted) result that we see two banners (DVDProfiler + Digitally added) unless we manually disable the banner for this profile.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributoremmeli
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Do you throw away the sleeve?


yes i do. 


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRichiLIVE
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The problem with your Gravity contribution was that you did not specify what kind of scan this was. From the pure scan a voter cannot see that this was supposed to be a J-slip (was it that?) and you did not contribute any change in case type.


This was partly my mistake. Everywhere in Asutria the normal Version of "Gravity" is sold with a paper J-Slip. I got mine from Amazon and it also had an J-Slip!
Every Warner Bros. title with UV copy had an J-Slip when I bought them!
Maybe there is an EAN failure or they had to few J-Slips for your Region in Germany.
Was the UV-Code also missing?

For me a J-Slip, as you call them, is not a Slip-Cover! Therefore I don't set "HD Slim + Slip-Cover". So I only set "HD Slim" and use the Media Banner option.
Maybe there should be an J-Slip option in the next update, which disables the media banner.

When everyone says it is incorrect I will not contribute my scans, but it looks much better with the correct banner and the UV info on the back.

The rule is correct for Standard Banners of the plastic Banners of a standard keep case. But I think this is a special case.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributoremmeli
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in this case for Gravity you can change the localisation to austria and redistribute them. then you have the correct cover. but the german first release comes without ultra violet. check your other profiles of localisation change and use the right country.


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in this case for Gravity you can change the localisation to austria and redistribute them. then you have the correct cover. but the german first release comes without ultra violet. check your other profiles of localisation change.


The first release is with an UV-Wrapper and Code inside.
The user "lewis_prothero" also got his one directly on release date from Amazon.

I think that preorders took all Gravity Versions with UV-code.
So I think the Version without code is a re-release, because all other new Warner releases had an UV-Code and Wrapper.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRichiLIVE
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There is an unboxing of an HD Slim case with UV-Wrapper on Youtube:
Gravity unboxing

It is also the release version of "Gravity"!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributoremmeli
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re-release on release date?



i have the disc excavated. uv code is inside on a paper sheet. i have not seen before, sorry. but no j-slip available.

btw. we are offtopic to your main question. 


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It is not unheard of that different versions with the same EAN get released on the same day (especially First Release Dates).
Usually we handled this by applying the "First In"-agreement

BTW: My copy of Gravity (arrived on Release-Date from Amazon) has this UV-Wrapper (which I will refuse to call Slip-Cover).
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRichiLIVE
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It is a little bit off topic, but I have recognised what emmeli means.
There design-Version numbers under the EAN which are 1 higher on the UV-Wrapper!
What emmeli doesn't know is that on the inlay is one number and on the UV Wrapper is an other one, which is one higher.
So somebody can think the inlay Version is the newer one, which is not correct, because on other releases there were also two Versions and sometimes they were a difference of 100 in numbers. It is only an intern design marking for the studio. Fox for instance seperates them by using the same number with "JC" and  "SL" right near the EAN field.
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