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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | There are many Cameo's in this movie, and I believe many are in the extended version of the film.
For instance Kaley Cuoco, appears in a scene that is in the extended, but not the theatrical version. Both versions are included on the same BD.
Should we include these cameo's in the cast list? |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Since the rules say, pertaining to running time: "For branching titles, or those with multiple versions (e.g. Theatrical and Director's Cut) on the same disc, use the longest running time.", I would think that we should also use the credits from the longer cut, and therefore any uncredited cast should be from that longer cut too.
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
Since the rules say, pertaining to running time: "For branching titles, or those with multiple versions (e.g. Theatrical and Director's Cut) on the same disc, use the longest running time.", I would think that we should also use the credits from the longer cut, and therefore any uncredited cast should be from that longer cut too.
--------------- since this is not from cast and crew rules. It doesn't apply. Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features, or whose scenes were deleted from the main feature, even if they appear in special features. Since the Theatrical version would be the main feature and their scenes were deleted from this version and only in the extended version, The extended/director's version are usually just the inclusion of the deleted scenes or alternate endings. I would say no. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | We do not include Cast if they are found in deleted scenes which is typically found separately via the DVD menu.
In other versions of the movie, such as a Director's Cut, those scenes are incorporated into the movie itself and not accessed via the DVD menu.
So, imho, inclusion of any Cast or Crew from alternative versions are allowed per rules. |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features, or whose scenes were deleted from the main feature, even if they appear in special features. The cast and crew should come from whatever version we record the running time for. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
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Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features, or whose scenes were deleted from the main feature, even if they appear in special features.
The cast and crew should come from whatever version we record the running time for. Agreed. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
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Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features, or whose scenes were deleted from the main feature, even if they appear in special features.
The cast and crew should come from whatever version we record the running time for.
Agreed. Agreed as well. It makes zero sense to say the running time is 120 minutes, then not profile the feature that is 120 minutes long. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features, or whose scenes were deleted from the main feature, even if they appear in special features.
The cast and crew should come from whatever version we record the running time for.
Agreed.
Agreed as well. It makes zero sense to say the running time is 120 minutes, then not profile the feature that is 120 minutes long. Didn't say it makes sense. Just pointing out that a rule says one thing to do and then another rule actually has you do what the other rule doesn't allow. Guess it all depends on what is more important to the individual. And the rebuttal of you don't have to have it in your local just means maybe 50% don't contribute anything more to those profiles that have gray area info. Just hope it isn't the 50% (a generous assessment) that actually contribute. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features, or whose scenes were deleted from the main feature, even if they appear in special features.
Since the Theatrical version would be the main feature and their scenes were deleted from this version and only in the extended version, The extended/director's version are usually just the inclusion of the deleted scenes or alternate endings.
I would say no. Why would the theatrical version be the main feature for this film. Why can't the extended version be the main feature for this particular release. The cover states near the bottom "also includes Theatrical Version" |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
Didn't say it makes sense. Just pointing out that a rule says one thing to do and then another rule actually has you do what the other rule doesn't allow. Neither rule tells you to do what the other doesn't allow. In fact, the two have nothing to do with each other as one deals with running time and the other deals with cast from special features. The second rule only comes into play if you consider an alternate version to be a special feature. Since the rules tell us to use the running time for that version, assuming it is the longer one, I don't believe it is. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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