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Karate Kid Region Free Australian Box Set Profile?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registranteruption77
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Hi guys, I have the Karate Kid box set from Australia on its way.  It's region free and will play in the U.S. and contains all four movies plus the 2010 remake.

When trying to import/download the profile for this set, it's not listed.  Only parts 1, 2, and the remake are available from Australia.

Is there a way I can create a profile for it once I receive the set?  I do not own a BD drive in my PC.  Does anyone else own this that they might be able to contribute the profile with the disc stats, actors, and case art?  I'm not sure I'll be able to create the profiles for Karate Kid III, Next Karate Kid, and the actual box set case art.

This is the set I'm referring to:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Karate-Kid-The-Movies-Blu-ray/108143/

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
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I have the same problem... no blu-ray drive in my computer. Unfortunately can't add disc level without one.

Bulk Edit can help with this if the disc IDs are already in the disc section of the parent profile... but unfortunately this is of no help to you in this case since there is no parent profile yet either.
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Thanks for your reply!  So, my takeaway, as expected is either:

1. I'm screwed since I don't own a BD drive or a scanner. OR
2. Wait and hope someone else uploads the profile.

I recently ordered the 5 disc Die Hard set from Australia too since it has the unrated cut of part 4.  To my surprise, the entire (and correct) profile was available for download from DVD Profiler.  Hopefully someone will soon update this KK set then too.
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Well I used a workaround of sorts for now until the actual profile becomes available for download.  Using instructions from a sticky in this thread I created the manual profiles that I needed for the set.  I then copied the cast/crew into those profiles from their DVD counterparts.  I found some low res covers online and pasted them in as the cover art for the box set, KK 3, and Next KK.  The Australian BD profiles for parts 1, 2, and the remake were already available so I used those.  It's far from perfect but will suffice for now.

The set came today and the picture quality is quite good.  All five movies are region-free as expected and played fine in my Sony BD player.
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I recently ordered the 5 disc Die Hard set from Australia too since it has the unrated cut of part 4.


Cool; If so, I think that's the first uncut Blu-ray home release available...

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Using instructions from a sticky in this thread I created the manual profiles that I needed for the set.


That's pretty much how I'd do it but make sure the 'master' ie. box profile isn't a manual one; that can be kept local if certain data is missing BUT if it's manual, then if/when someone submits it you'll never know... actually, since the box profile will be a 'parent' (so not have cast/crew/audio etc info anyway you could actually submit it yourself, hust with some info to be added later... submissions don't have to be complete, just accurate)
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That's pretty much how I'd do it but make sure the 'master' ie. box profile isn't a manual one; that can be kept local if certain data is missing BUT if it's manual, then if/when someone submits it you'll never know... actually, since the box profile will be a 'parent' (so not have cast/crew/audio etc info anyway you could actually submit it yourself, hust with some info to be added later... submissions don't have to be complete, just accurate)


Thanks for the info!  I'll try and adjust the 'parent' box set then accordingly.  My plan was to just periodically check and see if anyone had uploaded a profile for it.

And with 100% confirmation, all discs from both the Karate Kid and Die Hard sets are region free.  The Die Hard disc art actually states Region B on it, but again, my player is not region-free and all movies played fine.

Die Hard 4's menu gives you the option to watch the PG-13 cut, or the unrated complete with all of the out-of-sync F-bombs lol.  There are other random sources on the internet that also confirmed both sets are region free.  I had to dig a bit to find them, but they're out there.
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I have the same problem... no blu-ray drive in my computer.

With the new variants system coming in version 3.9, hopefully we can add children with variants of the UPC like this:

UPC 123456789101 (parent)
- UPC 123456789101 (variant #1), Movie 1
- UPC 123456789101 (variant #2), Movie 2
- UPC 123456789101 (variant #3), Movie 3

No need for a Blu-ray drive.
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Going by what Ken said the variants will be by the disc IDs not the UPC.. so no would still need a blu-ray drive.
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No, It's possible with UPC variants too. I have tried it myself.
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No... you misunderstand... Ken stated that it will be in the rules to do child profiles by disc id only.... not by UPC. So no in this case if you do not have a blu-ray drive you still will not be able to make the child profiles per the Rules.
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Sorry, but where did he say that?

I thought he said: "All of these points are open to discussion" ?

But if he don't want UPC variants, then some of my Box-sets will be without children in the DB for quite some time (maybe forever)(and that's a shame now that it's possible to do it).
It's maybe not a problem in your locality, where there is always one who can add it later. But thats not always the case in smaller localities. Everything will be much easier with UPC children. Why not allow both?
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At this point it is what we have. If he decides to change his mind on this point due to discussion or what have you is up to him. I can say going by past experience that usually when he gets this far it is at least not easy to change his mind on how it is to be done. Reading that post the only thing he truly sounded open to changing was not using variants for cover art differences only.
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I read it differently. At this point we have nothing. The rules have not been written or published yet.
What I read of it is: Everyone who has something to say about this should speak now, because history has shown us that it is almost impossible to change a rule when it first has been published.
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At this point it is what we have. If he decides to change his mind on this point due to discussion or what have you is up to him. I can say going by past experience that usually when he gets this far it is at least not easy to change his mind on how it is to be done. Reading that post the only thing he truly sounded open to changing was not using variants for cover art differences only.


Where did he say this.  Child profiles with UPC based children are common in box sets.  But only when the packaging has each film in UPC based packaging.  If the packaging for the individual films is not in UPC based packaging we use disc ID's
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At this point it is what we have. If he decides to change his mind on this point due to discussion or what have you is up to him. I can say going by past experience that usually when he gets this far it is at least not easy to change his mind on how it is to be done. Reading that post the only thing he truly sounded open to changing was not using variants for cover art differences only.


Where did he say this.  Child profiles with UPC based children are common in box sets.  But only when the packaging has each film in UPC based packaging.  If the packaging for the individual films is not in UPC based packaging we use disc ID's


I've been working on updating my box sets and I've found many of the Child profiles have UPCs. So far all of them are in the database under those UPCs.

Isn't Ken's update meant to supplement current rules and standards? I don't take his posts to mean that the update is changing already accepted protocols.
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@Scooter and Kathy:
What you guys are talking about are situations that can be perfectly handled by 3.8. What Pete is referring to are situations where the new 3.9 variants feature is needed and that cannot be handled by 3.8.
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