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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Recently I stumbled over a guy lying in the contribution notes.
What Do I mean:
He copies cast and crew from another profile and then states "Cast&Crew from actual credits".
In the last case
• the credits did not contain role names for the main crew; they were corrected without any source documentation
• valid cross links were simply lost
• birth years were used without any documentation
• uncredited cast was imported without documentation (I assume from IMDB)
With other contributions the same person contributed similar crap...
When I vote no to the contribution he resubmits it - if I'm lucky he corrected the mistakes, I pointed out. In other cases he simply corrects the contribution notes.
What can be done against such manners?
I don't feel it to be my job to check and document the contribution of guys who are to lazy to do it themselves.
Can we prevent proven liars from contributing? | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Open a support ticket. |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,722 |
| | Posted: | | | | "Cast&Crew from actual credits" unfortunately happens to be the standard description used to dump IMDb-mined data into the database - unfortunately, that happens quite a lot...  |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 |  Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
Open a support ticket. This. If we are confident that data was mined from a third party and submitted with a falsified source in the notes, we will take action immediately. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
"Cast&Crew from actual credits" unfortunately happens to be the standard description used to dump IMDb-mined data into the database - unfortunately, that happens quite a lot... And once these get accepted they're often copied over to other profiles that were better off before. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
Recently I stumbled over a guy lying in the contribution notes. You NOW stumbled over ONE guy lying in the contribution notes? LO. You're a funny guy. Quote:
What Do I mean:
He copies cast and crew from another profile and then states "Cast&Crew from actual credits". At least he cares about Cast and Crew. In Germany, they add dozens of uncredited publisher people to the cast list. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
Quoting samuelrichardscott:
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Open a support ticket.
This. If we are confident that data was mined from a third party and submitted with a falsified source in the notes, we will take action immediately. And you would have to take action against 90% of your contributors. |
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| Registered: April 1, 2007 |  Posts: 185 |
| | Posted: | | | | I play it safe. I only use cast/crew from existing profiles. Sometimes there are issues and sometimes they don't match if I look at multiple. I always try to pick the one that looks most complete. At least they've been "approved" by someone. If I get movies that don't exist in the DB, which I have come across several and have two I'm working on now in a 10 movie box set. I leave cast/crew empty on the initial submission and add it in later if/when I have the time, if someone doesn't get to it before me. I figure it's better to have the empty stub with cover scans than to have nothing at all. I had intended to mine the data from IMDB, but found it was not allowed, so I don't do it, then I don't have to lie about it.  | | | | Last edited: by 69samael69 |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 69samael69: Quote:
I had intended to mine the data from IMDB, but found it was not allowed, so I don't do it, then I don't have to lie about it. I wish every other contributor was as conscientious. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,630 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here's a tip. Mine the data from IMDb but use CastCrewCheck to verify / correct the data against the actual credits before contributing. See link in my signature. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
Here's a tip. Mine the data from IMDb but use CastCrewCheck to verify / correct the data against the actual credits before contributing. See link in my signature. This does not work (at least in the cases I complained here), since the IMDB lists different actors and crew members than actually credited. I don't know if this intentionally, but some of the differences really look like paperactors - or whatever the correct analogy to papertowns is  | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,630 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
Quoting GSyren:
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Here's a tip. Mine the data from IMDb but use CastCrewCheck to verify / correct the data against the actual credits before contributing. See link in my signature.
This does not work (at least in the cases I complained here), since the IMDB lists different actors and crew members than actually credited. I don't know if this intentionally, but some of the differences really look like paperactors - or whatever the correct analogy to papertowns is Sure it does. It's just a bit more work. If you feel it's better to start from scratch, GsyCastCrew is another option. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar |
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